Family Tree Welborn » Judith of Franks countess of Flanders (± 844-> 870)
Données personnelles Judith of Franks countess of Flanders
- Elle est née environ octobre 844 dans Orlâ©ans, Loiret, Centre-Val de Loire, France.
- Elle est décédée apres 870 dans Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne Franche-Comtâ©, France.
- Elle est enterrée dans France.
- Un enfant de Charles II "the Bald" of the Franks et Ermentrude of Orlâ©ans
- Cette information a été mise à jour pour la dernière fois le 15 mai 2021.
Famille de Judith of Franks countess of Flanders
(1) Elle est mariée avec Baldwin I "Iron-Arm" of Flanders.
Ils se sont mariés.
Enfant(s):
(2) Elle est mariée avec Aethelwulf âÜâæelwulf Wessex The Anglo-Saxons.
Ils se sont mariés.
Notes par Judith of Franks countess of Flanders
Judith, comtesse de Flanders is your 31st great grandmother.
You
‰ ᆒ Henry Marvin Welborn
your father ·Üí Emma Corine Welborn (Bombard)
his mother ·Üí Emma Elizabeth Free / Bombard (Davis)
her mother ·Üí Isabelle Bynum
her mother ·Üí Robert W Bynum
her father ·Üí Elizabeth Bynum (Mitchell)
his mother ·Üí Lydia Mitchell (Wheeler)
her mother ·Üí Jonathan Wheeler, I
her father ·Üí Martha Wheeler (Salisbury)
his mother ·Üí William Salisbury
her father ·Üí William Salisbury, of Denbigh & Swansea
his father ·Üí John Salisbury, of Denbigh
his father ·Üí Lady Ursula Salusbury (Stanley)
his mother ·Üí Jane Halsall, of Knowsley
her mother ·Üí Jane Osbaldeston (Stanley)
her mother ·Üí Elizabeth Beaumont (Harrington)
her mother ·Üí unknown Harington (Neville), heiress of Hornby
her mother ·Üí Robert de Neville, of Hornby
her father ·Üí Margaret de Neville (de Longvillers)
his mother ·Üí John de Longvillers
her father ·Üí Elena FitzWilliam
his mother ·Üí Adela (Ela) de Warenne (de Warene), Concubine #1 of John "Lackland" of England
her mother ·Üí Hamelin d·ÄôAnjou, 4th Earl of Surrey
her father ·Üí Adelaide de Angers (Possibly Empress Mathilda)
his mother ·Üí Henry I "Beauclerc", King of England
her father ·Üí Matilda of Flanders
his mother ·Üí Baldwin V, count of Flanders
her father ·Üí Baldwin IV the Bearded, count of Flanders
his father ·Üí Arnulf II the Young, count of Flanders
his father ·Üí Baldwin III, count of Flanders
his father ·Üí Arnulf I the Great, count of Flanders
his father ·Üí Baldwin II "the Bald", count of Flanders
his father ·Üí Judith, comtesse de Flanders
his mother
Judith, countess of Flanders is your 32nd great grandmother.
You‰
‰ ‰ ᆒ‰ Geneva Allene Welborn‰
your mother‰ ᆒ‰ Alice Elmyra Smith‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Nellie Mary Henley‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ John Merrit Wooldridge‰
her father‰ ᆒMerritt Wooldridge‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Chesley Wooldridge‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Edward Wooldridge, Jr.‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Wooldridge‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Martha Flournoy‰
her mother‰ ᆒJane Gower‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Marian Mary Hatcher‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Capt. Christopher Newport, Admiral of Virginia‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Christopher Newport, Sr.‰
his father‰ ᆒChristopher Richard Newporte‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Allington‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Allington‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Elizabeth Cokayne‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Baroness Ida Cokayne‰
her mother‰ ᆒLady Alianore de Grey‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ John le Strange, Sr., 2nd Baron Strange of Blackmere‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Eleanor Giffard‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Maud de Clifford‰
her mother‰ ᆒSir Walter Clifford, III, Baron Clifford‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Walter de Clifford, 2nd Baron Clifford‰
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Margaret de Toâ´ny¬â
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Ralph IV de Toeni‰
her father‰ ᆒIsabelle de Montfort, dame de Nogent‰
his mother¬â ·Üí¬â Simon L'Ainâ© de Montfort, I¬â
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Amaury I, seigneur de Montfort‰
his father‰ ᆒGuillaume de Valenciennes, Lord of Montfort‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Judith de Cambrai‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Bertha de Cambrai, countess of Cambrai‰
her mother‰ ᆒRudolf, count of Cambrai‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Judith, countess of Flanders‰
his mother
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Judith, countess of Flanders is your 34th great grandmother.
You‰
‰ ‰ ᆒ‰ Geneva Allene Welborn‰
your mother‰ ᆒ‰ Alice Elmyra Smith‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Nellie Mary Henley‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ John Merrit Wooldridge‰
her father‰ ᆒMerritt Wooldridge‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Chesley Wooldridge‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Edward Wooldridge, Jr.‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Wooldridge‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Martha Flournoy‰
her mother‰ ᆒJane Gower‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Marian Mary Hatcher‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Capt. Christopher Newport, Admiral of Virginia‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Dorothy Jane Newport‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Alice Hatton‰
her motherᆒ‰ Lawrence Saunders‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Edward Saunders‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Robert Saunders (1445)‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ William Saunders, I‰
his father‰ ᆒThomas Alexander Saunders, of Charlton, Surrey‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Thomas Saunders, I‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ John Alexander Saunders‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Agnes de Bussey‰
his mother‰ ᆒMilon VI de Noyers, seigneur de Noyers‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Milon V, seigneur de Noyers‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Ade de Montmirail‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Hildiarde d'Oisy‰
her mother¬â ·ÜíSimon d'Oisy, châ¢telain de Cambrai¬â
her father¬â ·Üí¬â Hugues II D'OISY, Châ¢telain de Cambrai *¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Hugues I de Douai, châ¢telain de Cambrai¬â
his father¬â ·ÜíAdâ®le de Cambrai¬â
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Walter of Cambrai‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Gautheir I de Lens de Cambrai‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Arnoul I, comte de Cambrai‰
his father‰ ᆒBertha de Cambrai, countess of Cambrai‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Rudolf, count of Cambrai‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Judith, countess of Flanders‰
his mother
https://www.geni.com/people/Judith-countess-of-Flanders/6000000001744837976
Judith, Princesse de la dynastie des Carolingiens
Gender:
Female
Birth:
October 844
Orlâ©ans, Loiret, Centre-Val de Loire, France
Death:
after 870
Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne Franche-Comtâ©, France
Place of Burial:
France
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Charles II "the Bald", Western Emperor and Ermentrude of Orlâ©ans, queen of the Franks
Wife of Aethelwulf, king of Wessex; Aethelbald, king of Wessex
and Baldwin I "Iron-Arm", 1st margrave of Flanders
Mother of Baldwin II "the Bald", count of Flanders; Rudolf, count of Cambrai and Karel van Vlaanderen
Sister of Carloman Le Pieux; Louis II the Stammerer, king of the West Franks; Charles the Child, king of Aquitaine; Lucretia van West-Franciâ´; Ermengarda; Gisela; Hildegarda; Rotrude, Abbess of Saint-Radegunde; Lotar and Maria de Lorraine, Abbess
Half sister of Rothilde de Bourges; Rothilde of the Franks; Drogo; Pippin; NN; and Charles
Judith of the Franks
Judith de France (v. 843-870), reine de Wessex puis comtesse de Flandre
Elle est la fille de Charles le Chauve et Ermentrude d'Orlâ©ans.
Elle â©pouse successivement :
* âÜthelwulf (795 ·Äâ 858), roi de Wessex le 1er octobre 856 ââ Verberie.
* âÜthelbald (829 ·Äâ 860), roi de Wessex en 858, fils du prâ©câ©dent. De cette deuxiâ®me union elle eut un fils :
1 Archibald le Jeune
* Baudouin Bras de fer (837 - 879), comte de Flandre. Bien qu'elle eâªt â©tâ© enlevâ©e de son plein grâ© par Baudouin Bras de fer, elle fut, ââ la demande du roi de France, excommuniâ©e avec son ravisseur par un concile d'â©vââ¢ques. Intercâ©dant tous les deux auprâ®s du pape Nicolas Ier, celui-ci donna son accord ââ leur mariage qui eut lieu ââ Auxerre le 13 dâ©cembre, 862[1] ou 863[2] selon les sources. Ils eurent 2 enfants :
1 Baudouin dit le Chauve (862 -·Äâ 918 Gand).
2 Raoul (865 -·Äâ 900)
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_de_France
http://vls.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith,_%C3%AAeste_Gravinne_van_Vloandern
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_of_Flanders
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#JudithM1AethelwulfM2AethelbaldM3Baudouin
Emperor Charles II & his first wife Ermentrudis had nine children:
1. JUDITH ([844]-after 870). The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Iudith et Hildegardim, Hirmintrudim et Gislam" as the four daughters of "Karolus imperatorဦex Hyrmentrudi regina", specifying that she married "Balduinus comes"[235].
The Annales Bertiniani record the betrothal in Jul 856 of "Iudith filiam Karli regis" and "Edilvulf rex occidentalium Anglorum" after the latter returned from Rome and their marriage "Kal Oct in Vermaria palatio", during which "Ingmaro Durocortori Remorum episcopo" set a queen's diadem on her head[236]. Her first husband placed her "by his own side on the regal throne", contrary to normal practice in the kingdom of Wessex[237]. The Annales Bertiniani record the marriage of "Iudit reginam" and "Adalboldus filius eius [=Edilvulf regis]" in 858 after the death of her first husband[238].
Asser records that when King âÜthelwulf was dead, his son âÜthelbald married Judith daughter of Charles king of the Franks "contrary to God's prohibition and the dignity of a Christian, contrary also to the custom of all the pagans·Ä¶and drew down much infamy upon himself"[239].
The Annales Bertiniani record that Judith returned to her father after the death of her second husband, lived at Senlis "sub tuitione paterna", and from there was abducted by "Balduinum comitem" with the consent of her brother Louis, her father consenting to the marriage the following year[240]. Flodoard names "Balduini comitis et IuditaဦKaroli regis filia, Edilvulfo regi Anglorum qui et Edelboldus in matrimonium"[241].
m firstly (Verberie-sur-Oise, near Senlis 1 Oct 856) as his [second/third] wife, âÜTHELWULF King of Wessex, son of ECGBERT King of Wessex & his wife Redburga --- ([795/800]-13 Jan 858, bur Winchester).
m secondly (858) âÜTHELBALD King of Wessex, son of âÜTHELWULF King of Wessex & his [second] wife Osburga --- (-20 Dec 860, bur Sherborne).
m thirdly (Auxerre 13 Dec 862) BAUDOUIN I Count of Flanders, son of ODACRE [Audacer/Odoscer] Graf van Harlebeek & his wife --- ([837/840]-Arras 879, bur Abbaye de Saint-Bertin near Saint-Omer).
âÜthelwulf m [thirdly] ([Verberie-sur-Oise] 1 Oct 856) as her first husband, JUDITH of the Franks, daughter of CHARLES II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks & his first wife Ermentrude [d·ÄôOrlâ©ans] ([844]-after 870).
The Annales Bertiniani record the betrothal in Jul 856 of "Iudith filiam Karli regis" and "Edilvulf rex occidentalium Anglorum" after the latter returned from Rome and their marriage "Kal Oct in Vermaria palatio", during which "Ingmaro Durocortori Remorum episcopo" set a queen's diadem on her head[1494].
She and her father are named by Roger of Hoveden when he records her marriage to King âÜthelwulf[1495]. Her husband placed her "by his own side on the regal throne", contrary to normal practice according to Asser, who also says that the subservient position previously given to the queen was adopted in Wessex after the reign of King Beorhtric because of the unpopular influence of his queen Eadburh of Mercia[1496].
Queen Judith married secondly ([858/59]) her stepson, âÜthelbald King of Wessex. The Annales Bertiniani record the marriage of "Iudit reginam" and "Adalboldus filius eius [=Edilvulf regis]" in 858 after the death of her first husband[1497].
She eloped with her future third husband, Baudouin I Count of Flanders, around Christmas 861 and married him at Auxerre end-863. The Annales Bertiniani record that Judith returned to her father after the death of her second husband, lived at Senlis "sub tuitione paterna", and from there was abducted by "Balduinum comitem" with the consent of her brother Louis, her father consenting to the marriage the following year[1498]. Flodoard names "Balduini comitis et IuditaဦKaroli regis filia, Edilvulfo regi Anglorum qui et Edelboldus in matrimonium"[1499].
âÜthelbald m ([858/59], separated) as her second husband, his stepmother, JUDITH of the Franks, widow of âÜTHELWULF King of Wessex, daughter of CHARLES II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks & his first wife Ermentrude [d·ÄôOrlâ©ans] ([844]-after 870).
Asser records that when King âÜthelwulf was dead, his son âÜthelbald married Judith daughter of Charles king of the Franks "contrary to God's prohibition and the dignity of a Christian, contrary also to the custom of all the pagans·Ä¶and drew down much infamy upon himself"[1513].
The Annales Bertiniani record the marriage of "Iudit reginam" and "Adalboldus filius eius [=Edilvulf regis]" in 858 after the death of her first husband[1514].
Roger of Hoveden also records this second marriage of Judith[1515]. Roger of Wendover records the marriage and adds that âÜthelbald repudiated his wife in penitence for the marriage[1516]. "Iudith regis filius [sic]" subscribed a charter of King âÜthelbald dated 860[1517].
This presumably refers to Judith, âÜthelbald's wife. Although it is not impossible that Queen Judith had a daughter by her first husband, her own date of birth indicates that it is unlikely that such a child could have been born before [858], in which case the daughter would probably not have been considered old enough to have subscribed a charter in 860. The "regis filius [=filia]" reference is nevertheless surprising (why not "regina"?), although one explanation is that it refers to her as daughter of the Frankish king rather than her relationship to the Wessex royal family. Another simpler explanation is that it was simply a copyist's error.
The Annales Bertiniani record that Judith returned to her father after the death of her second husband, lived at Senlis "sub tuitione paterna", and from there was abducted by "Balduinum comitem" with the consent of her brother Louis, her father consenting to the marriage the following year[1518].
Judith eloped with her future third husband, Baudouin I Count of Flanders, around Christmas 861 and married him at Auxerre end-863. Flodoard names "Balduini comitis et IuditaဦKaroli regis filia, Edilvulfo regi Anglorum qui et Edelboldus in matrimonium"[1519].
Baudouin m (Auxerre 13 Dec 862) as her third husband, JUDITH, widow firstly of âÜTHELWULF King of Wessex and secondly of âÜTHELBALD King of Wessex, daughter of CHARLES II ·Äúle Chauve·Äù King of the West Franks [Carolingian] & his first wife Ermentrude [d'Orlâ©ans] ([844]-after [870]). She is named as wife of Baudouin in the list of counts of Flanders recorded in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin, which also names her parents and her three sons[44]. She and her father are named by Roger of Hoveden when he records her marriage to King âÜthelwulf[45].
Asser records that "Iuthittam, Karoli Francorum regis filiam" married "âÜthelbald filius eius [=âÜthelwulfo rege]" after the death of her first husband, commenting that it was "cum magna ab omnibus audientibus infamia"[46]. Roger of Hoveden also records this second marriage of Judith[47]. Flodoard names "Balduini comitis et Iudita·Ä¶Karoli regis filia, Edilvulfo regi Anglorum qui et Edelboldus in matrimonium"[48]. The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Iudith et Hildegardim, Hirmintrudim et Gislam" as the four daughters of "Karolus imperator·Ä¶ex Hyrmentrudi regina", specifying that Judith married "Balduinus comes"[49]. The Annales Bertiniani record that Judith returned to her father after the death of her second husband, lived at Senlis "sub tuitione paterna", and from there was abducted by "Balduinum comitem" with the consent of her brother Louis, her father consenting to the marriage the following year[50].
The Annales Elnonenses Minores record the marriage in 862 of "Balduinus, Odacri filius" and "Iudith, Caroli regis filiam"[51]. The preceding information is pulled together by the Genealogia Comitum Flandriⶠwhich names "Iudith vidua Adelbaldi regis Anglorum, filia Karoli Calvi regis Francorum" as the wife of "Balduinum Ferreum"[52].
No information has been found in the primary sources so far consulted which throws light on the possible date of death of Judith, although it is unlikely that she died before about 870 at the earliest assuming that she was the mother of all the children referred to below.
Count Baudouin I & his wife had [five] children:
1. CHARLES ([864/65]-young). "Karolus brevis vite" is named as first of the three sons of Baudouin and his wife Judith in the list of counts of Flanders recorded in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin[53]. It is assumed that Charles died young as no other reference to him has been found.
2. BAUDOUIN ([865/67]-[10 Sep] 918, bur St Bertin, transferred 929 to Gent, St Pieter). He is named as second of the three sons of Baudouin and his wife Judith in the list of counts of Flanders recorded in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin[54]. He succeeded his father in 879 as BAUDOUIN II "le Chauve"[55] Count of Flanders. From his succession, he came under great pressure from Viking raids, and took refuge in the marshes of Saint-Omer in 883[56].
Baudouin II expanded his territories by occupying the pagi of Mempisc, Courtrai and the Ijzer, seizing control of the counties of Ternois and Boulonnais after 892, and the Tournaisis (except for the town of Tournai)[57]. Although Count Baudouin at first supported the election of Eudes as king of France in 888, the latter opposed the count's becoming lay-abbot of St Bertin (in 892, in succession to abbot Rudolf[58]) and pursued the count to Bruges, although the king was unable to capture the town.
The Annales Vedastini record the death "Non Ian 892" of "Rodulfus abba", that "castellani Egfridum comitem" was sent to announce the news to the king, and that in his absence "Balduinum a Flandrisဦper consilium Evreberti qui nimis fuerat versutissimus" seized the abbacy against the wishes of the king who had promised it to Egfrid[59]. The Annales Vedastini record that "Balduinus" captured Artois in 892[60]. Count Baudouin supported the coronation of Charles III "le Simple" as king of the West Franks in 895, but afterwards changed sides and supported Zwentibold Duke of Lotharingia.
The Annales Vedastini name "Balduinus·Ä¶comes et Rodulfus frater eius necnon et Ragnerus" when recording that they joined Zwentibold in 895[61]. Baudouin II invaded Pâ©ronne in 899[62] and attacked Vermandois, Artois and Boulogne, but was driven out of Vermandois by 900, although he reconquered it and killed Hâ©ribert II Comte de Vermandois in revenge for the death of his brother Raoul[63]. Count Baudouin also controlled the abbeys of St Vaast and St Bertin.
The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 918 of "Balduvinus comes", specifying that he was buried at "Blandinio"[64]. An undated charter, dated to [962], recording the last wishes of "marchysi Arnulfi", notes that "pater meus et mater mea" were buried in the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand[65]. His territories were divided between his two sons on his death[66].
m ([893/99]) âÜLFTHRYTH of Wessex, daughter of ALFRED King of Wessex & his wife Ealhswith of the Gainas ([877]-7 Jun 929, bur Gent, St Pieter). "Elfthtritham" is named by Roger of Hoveden, third in his list of King Alfred's daughters by Queen Ealhswith[67]. She is called "âÜthelswitha" by Asser[68]. "Elftrudis" is named as wife of Count Baudouin II in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin without giving her origin[69]. The Genealogia Comitum Flandriⶠnames "filia Edgeri regis Anglorum, nomine Elferudem" as the wife of "Balduinus Calvus"[70], although "Edgeri" is clearly an error for "Alfredi". This marriage represented the start of a long-lasting alliance between England and Flanders, founded on their common interest in preventing Viking settlements along the coast. "Elstrudis comitissa·Ä¶cum filiis suis Arnulfo et Adelolfo" donated "hereditatem suam Liefsham·Ä¶in terra Anglorum in Cantia" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "senioris sui Baldwini", by charter dated 11 Sep 918[71]. The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 929 of "filia regis Elftrudis comitissa"[72]. The Memorial of "Elstrudis·Ä¶Balduini·Ä¶domini" records her death "VII Iunii"[73]. An undated charter, dated to [962], recording the last wishes of "marchysi Arnulfi", notes that "pater meus et mater mea" were buried in the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand[74]. Count Baudouin II & his wife had [five] children:
a) ARNOUL de Flandres (after [893/99]-murdered 27 Mar 964, bur Gent, St Pieter). The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Arnulfum, fratrem eius Adelulfum" as the two sons of "Balduinus"[75]. He succeeded his father in 918 as ARNOUL I "le Grand" Count of Flanders and Artois.
b) ADALOLF [âÜthelwulf] de Flandres (after [893/99]-13 Nov 933, bur Gent St Pieter). The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Arnulfum, fratrem eius Adelulfum" as the two sons of "Balduinus"[76]. "Adalolphus" is named son of Count Baudouin II in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin, which specifies that he succeeded his father in 918 as Comte de Boulogne-sur-Mer, de Thâ©rouanne, and lay-Abbot of St Bertin[77]. "Elstrudis comitissa·Ä¶cum filiis suis Arnulfo et Adelolfo" donated "hereditatem suam Liefsham·Ä¶in terra Anglorum in Cantia" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "senioris sui Baldwini", by charter dated 11 Sep 918[78]. The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 933 of "Adalulfus comes", specifying that he was buried "in monasterio sancti Petri"[79].
c) EALSWID de Flandres. "Ealhswid" is named as daughter of Count Baudouin and his wife âÜlfthryth in the Chronicle of âÜthelweard[80].
d) ERMENTRUDE de Flandres. "Earmentruth" is named as daughter of Count Baudouin and his wife âÜlfthryth in the Chronicle of âÜthelweard[81].
e) [---. No information has been found concerning this possible fifth child of Count Baudouin II. If "avunculus" is used in its strict sense in the source cited below, the child was a daughter. However, it is possible that "avunculus" was used informally as the counterpart of "nepos", the latter being much less precise and possibly indicating a more remote blood relationship. If Abbot Hildebrand's mother was the sister of Count Arnoul, it is possible that she was the same person as either Ealswid or Ermentrude who are named above. No information has been found about the father of Hildebrand. m ---.] One child:
i) [HILDEBRAND (-after 961). Arnulf Count of Flanders was "avunculus Hildebrandi abbas" according to the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin[82]. The Chronica Monasterii Sancti Bertini also records "Hildebrandus·Ä¶avunculo suo comite Arnulfo"[83]. Abbâ© de Saint-Bertin et de Saint-Vaast. The Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin names "Hildebrando nepos suus [Widdonem abbas]", specifying that he succeeded Guido as abbot[84]. No other information has been found to enable a more precise relationship to be identified either between Count Arnoul and Abbot Hildebrand or between Abbot Hildebrand and Abbot Guido.]
3. RAOUL ([867/70]-murdered 17 Jun 896). "Rodolphus Cameracensis comes" is named as third of the three sons of Baudouin and his wife Judith in the list of counts of Flanders recorded in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin[85]. The Annales Blandinienses records "Rodulfus comes et abba factus est" in 882[86]. The date when he was installed as Comte de Cambrai is not known. However, his brother Baudouin II Count of Flanders supported the election of Eudes as king of France in 888, and it is suggested that Raoul's appointment must have taken place around that time. Baudouin quarrelled with King Eudes over the succession to the lay abbacy of Saint-Bertin in 892, so it is unlikely that the king would have favoured members of the count's family with a comital appointment after this episode. Raoul supported his brother's attack on the county of Vermandois and captured Arras, Saint-Quentin and Pâ©ronne after 5 Jan 892, but was captured by Hâ©ribert I Comte de Vermandois and killed[87]. The Annales Vedastini name "Balduinus·Ä¶comes et Rodulfus frater eius necnon et Ragnerus" when recording that they joined Zwentibold of Lotharingia in 895[88]. The History of Waulsort monastery records that "Cameracensis comes Rodulfus·Ä¶regalis consanguinitatis" invaded the territory of "quatuor Heriberti filios" with the consent of "rege Francorum·Ä¶avunculo suo" but was expelled[89], but this source confuses Raoul, son of Baudouin I, with Comte Raoul [II] de Gouy (see the document NORTHERN FRANCE). The Annales Vedastini record that "Rodulfus comes" disrupted the peace in 896 and took the property of "Heribertus et Erkingerus", that "Odo rex" besieged "castrum sancti Quintini et Peronam" and expelled Raoul's supporters, and that Hâ©ribert killed Raoul[90]. The Annales Blandinienses record that "Rodulfus comes" was killed "IV Kal Iul 896"[91]. [m ---. The name of the possible wife of Comte Raoul is not known.] Raoul & his wife had [one possible child]:
a) [--- de Cambrai . According to Europâ§ische Stammtafeln[92], Isaac was married to a daughter of Raoul. The primary source on which this is based has not been identified. It is possible that it is purely speculative designed to explain the transmission of the county of Cambrai between the two individuals. m ISAAC Comte de Cambrai, son of --- (-[946/30 Apr 948]).]
4. [daughter . m ---.] [One possible child]:
a) [GAUTHIER . The History of Waulsort monastery names "WalterusဦRodulfi sororis filius" recording that he attempted to avenge the death of his maternal uncle[93]. No other reference to this person has been found and, because the History of Waulsort monastery is such a confused source, his existence should be treated with caution.]
Incorrectly assigned daughter:
5. [GUNHILD [Guinidilde] (-before 19 Feb 904). Wifredo "el Velloso" and his wife Winidilda donated property to Ripoll monastery by charter dated 27 Jun 875 which names "fratre meo·Ä¶Seniofredo"[94]. According to Weir[95], the wife of Guifrâ© I Conde de Barcelona was Gunhild, daughter of Baudouin I Count of Flanders. It is assumed that this is based on the Gestis Comitum Barcinonensium which records that Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks gave an unnamed daughter of the (unnamed) count of Flanders in marriage to "Pilosi" at the same time as granting him the county of Barcelona[96], although this source is unreliable in some points of detail concerning the family of the counts of Barcelona. Considering that the early counts of Flanders were in 877 still in the process of consolidating their position in their newly founded county, it is not clear what contact they would have had with a count whose territory was so distant from their own sphere of activity, or the advantages they would have seen in such a dynastic marriage. The only known point in common between the two counts appears to have been that King Charles II "le Chauve" was suzerain of both. Gunhild is not shown among the children of Count Baudouin in Rââsch[97]. This supposed Flemish origin is incorrect: Guinidilde¬¥s true parentage is confirmed by charters dated 875, 877 and 878 under which "Winidildes commitissa" donated property "de comparatione de cuondam patrem meum·Ä¶Seniofredo" to San Juan de Ripoll monastery[98].
A charter of her daughter Emma dated 19 Feb 904 specifies that her mother was dead[99]. m (before 27 Jun 875) GUIFRE "el Velloso/el Pilós/the Hairy" Conde de Barcelona, son of SUNIFREDO de Carcassonne, Count in the March of Spain & his wife Ermentrude (-killed in battle near Santa María del Puch [21 Aug 897/31 Dec 898], probably 11 Aug 898, bur Santa María de Ripoll monastery).]
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Judith of France, 844-870
In a time when women had little power, even to make decisions that intimately affected their own lives, the story of Judith of France stands out as that of a young woman who finally took control of her own destiny.
A great-granddaughter of Charlemagne, Judith was born in 844 to Charles the Bald, King of the Franks. In October 856, when she was 12 years old, Judith was married to Aethelwulf, the 60-year-old king of England. Aethelwulf was a deeply religious man who was returning from a pilgrimage to Rome with his youngest son, Alfred (later the English king Alfred the Great). In a break with Saxon tradition, Aethelwulf named Judith as queen. According to tradition, the Saxons had once had an "obstinate and malevolent" queen who caused the nobles to swear they would never allow a king to rule over them if he attempted to place a queen on the throne beside him.
Scholars speculate the marriage between Judith and Aethelwulf was made for strictly diplomatic purposes; Aethwulf's oldest son, Aethelbald, however, seems to have thought there was a possibility of an heir from his father's second marriage. Before Aethelwulf and Judith could arrive in England, Aethelbald had usurped the throne. In an effort to avoid civil war, Aethelwulf divided his kingdom, giving the west to Aethelbald and keeping the east for himself.
Judith was left a very young widow when Aethelwulf died in 858. What happened next in her life is something of a mystery. Instead of returning to her father in France, Judith married her stepson, Aethelbald - the man who had attempted to usurp the throne -- in 860, when she was 16. The move was highly unpopular with the Saxon nobles and the church. Asser, the biographer of Alfred the Great, described the situation as being "against God's prohibition and Christian dignity . . . incurring great disgrace from all who heard of it." No doubt realizing he couldn't hold his political power if he remained married to Judith, Aethelbald agreed to an annulment on the grounds of consanguinity. Ironically, he died before the year was out.
Judith finally returned to France, but not to home. For reasons unknown, her father put her in a monastery under the supervision of the bishop of Sens. It's not too hard, actually, to guess why Charles would sequester his daughter; around Christmas 861, Judith eloped with Baldwin Iron Arm, who may have earned his nickname defending Charles' kingdom against Vikings. Judith and Baldwin were probably married before they left the monastery to flee north to escape Charles' wrath. They managed to elude Charles until October 862, when they went for refuge to Lothair II, Judith's cousin.
Unable to capture Judith and Baldwin, Charles resorted to damning their eternal souls - he ordered his bishops to excommunicate the pair. Refusing to simply accept the king's order, Judith and Baldwin traveled to Rome for an audience with Pope Nicholas I. The pope agreed their marriage was valid and Charles was forced to accept Baldwin as his son-in-law. Judith and Baldwin were officially married in December 863.
The couple settled down in Flanders. Some people speculate that Charles gave Baldwin land that was vulnerable to Viking attacks in hopes his new son-in-law would be killed. However, Baldwin defended his property successfully and became one of Charles' most loyal supporters. Judith bore three sons for Baldwin: Charles, who died young; Baldwin II (866); and Raoul (869). Unfortunately, Judith had only a short time to enjoy life with the husband she obviously chose for herself; she died in 870 at the age of 26.
Portrait is Cover art from Margaret Leighton's book Judith of France
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Judith of Flanders
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Judith of Flanders (or Judith of France) (October 844 ·Äì 870) was the first daughter of the Frankish King and Holy Roman Emperor Charles the Bald and his wife Ermentrude of Orlâ©ans. Through her marriage to two Kings of Wessex, Judith was twice a Queen, and through her third marriage to Baldwin, she became the first Countess of Flanders. She was ancestress of the later Counts of Flanders, and was the step-mother and later the step-sister of King Alfred the Great.
Queen of Wessex
When Judith was about 12 years old, her father gave her in marriage to Ethelwulf, King of Wessex on October 1, 856 at Verberie sur Oise, France. Ethelwulf had been on pilgrimage to Rome, and had stopped at the Court of Judith's father, Charles the Bald on his journey back to Wessex. Soon after the two returned to England, Ethelwulf's eldest surviving son, Ethelbald, had devised a conspiracy with the Ealdorman of Somerset and the Bishop of Sherborne to oppose âÜthelwulf's resumption of the kingship. In response to this crisis, âÜthelwulf yielded western Wessex to his son while he himself retained central and eastern Wessex. âÜthelwulf's restoration included a special concession on behalf of Saxon queens: the West Saxons previously did not allow the queen to sit next to the king. In fact they were not referred to as a queen, but merely the "wife of the king." This restriction was lifted for Queen Judith, probably because she was a high ranking European princess.
When Ethelwulf died on the 13th of January 858, he was succeeded by his son, Ethelbald. In the same year Ethelbald earned the censure of the Church by marrying Judith, his widowed teenage step-mother. The relationship was deemed incestuous and in direct contravention of church law. The marriage was eventually annulled in 860 on the grounds of consanguinity, the same year that Ethelbald died.
Through her marriages to two Kings of Wessex, Judith was twice Queen of Wessex and was both the step-mother and later step-sister of Alfred the Great. Interestingly, Judith's son by her third marriage, Baldwin II of Flanders would go on to marry Alfred's daughter, âÜlfthryth (also known as Elfrida). By her third marriage, Judith was also the ancestress of another Queen of England, Matilda of Flanders, the consort of England's first Norman King, William the Conqueror. Thus Judith is not only an ancestress of the Counts of Flanders, but through Matilda, she is also direct ancestress of the Monarchs of England, including Queen Elizabeth II.
Elopement with Baldwin of Flanders
Following the death of her second husband, Judith sold her properties in Wessex and returned to France. According to the Chronicle of St. Bertin, her father sent her to the Monestery at Senlis, where she would remain "under his protection and royal episcopal guardianship, with all the honour due to a queen, until such time as, if she could not remain chaste, she might marry in the way the apostle said, that is suitably and legally."[1] Presumably, Charles may have intended to arrange another marriage for his daughter. However, around Christmas 861, Judith eloped with Baldwin, later Count of Flanders. The two were likely married at the monastery of Senlis at this time. The record of the incident in the Annals depict Judith not as the passive victim of bride theft but as an active agent, eloping at the instigation of Baldwin and apparently with her brother Louis the Stammerer's consent.[2]
Unsurprisingly, Judith's father was furious and ordered his bishops to excommunicate the couple. They later fled to the court of Judith's cousin Lothair II of Lotharingia for protection, before going to Pope Nicholas I to plead their case. The Pope took diplomatic action and asked Judith's father to accept the union as legally binding and welcome the young couple into his circle - which ultimately he did. The couple then returned to France and were officially married at Auxerre in 863.
Baldwin was given the land directly south of the Scheldt, ie: the Country of Flanders (albeit an area of smaller size than the county which existed in the High Middle Ages) to ward off Viking attacks. Although it is disputed among historians as to whether King Charles did this in the hope that Baldwin would be killed in the ensuing battles with the Vikings, Baldwin managed the situation remarkably well. Baldwin succeeded in quelling the Viking threat, expanded both his army and his territory quickly, and became a faithful supporter of King Charles. The March of Baldwin came to be known as the County of Flanders and would come to be one of the most powerful principality's of France. Judith herself died in 870, when she was approximately only 26 years of age.
Marriages and Children
Judith was first married to King Ethelwulf of Wessex, then to his heir, Ethelbald of Wessex. Her first two marriages produced no issue.
By her third huband, Baldwin I of Flanders, Judith's children included:
* Charles (born after 863, died young) - ostensibly named for Judith's father, Charles the Bald
* Baldwin II - (c. 864/866 - 918). Succeeded his father as Count of Flanders. Married âÜlfthryth, daughter of Alfred the Great
* Raoul (Rodulf) - (c. 869 - 896). Became Count of Cambrai around 888, and was killed by Herbert I of Vermandois in 896
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