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Personal data Waldrade (=Wiltrude) d' Orléans de Toulouse 

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Household of Waldrade (=Wiltrude) d' Orléans de Toulouse

She is married to Rutpert Robert III Capet.

They got married about 808.

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Child(ren):

  1. Ida [Capet] de Wormsgau  ± 820-???? 


Notes about Waldrade (=Wiltrude) d' Orléans de Toulouse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldrada_of_Worms

Waldrada of Worms (aka, Waldraith of Toulouse (801-?) was the second wife of Conrad II, Duke of Transjurane Burgundy. They had two known children, Adelaide of Auxerre and Rudolph I of Burgundy.
She was first married to Robert III of Worms, in 819 in Wormgau, Germany. This marriage brought in 820 a son, Robert IV the Strong. The marriage ended when Robert III died in 822.

Some say her father was Saint William of Gellone. However, this may be unlikely. It is also unlikely that she is the wife of Conrad. While having been born supposedly between 790 and 801, she certainly could have been William's daughter, these dates are likely not accurate if she was also Conrad's wife. This is because her progeny with Conrad were born ca. 849 and 859, respectively. If these dates are accurate, then Waldrada had these children between the ages of 49 and 59 years old, at best. Given that menopause occurs in modern times between ages 45– 55, it is possible that she was Adelaide's mother. Her being Rudolph's mother is more problematic.

What is more likely is that she and the wife of Conrad are two different people. One possible solution is that the Waldrada who married Conrad II and Robert III is the daughter of Waldrada, wife of Adrian, Count of Orléans (767-824), who may (key word) be the daughter of William of Gelone. This is all conjecture, however.

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http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiltrud_von_Orl%C3%A9ans

Wiltrud von Orléans (auch Waldrada, Wialdrudt, Wialdruth; * um 785) war die Tochter des Grafen Hadrian von Orléans (* um 760; † 822) und dessen Gemahlin Waldrat aus dem Geschlecht der Widonen. Zwei ihrer Enkel, Odo und Robert wurden Könige des Westfrankenreichs.

Im Jahre 808 heiratete sie Rutpert III. (Robert III.), Graf im Oberrheingau und im Wormsgau aus dem Haus der Rupertiner. Sie selbst erbte reichen Besitz in Orléans, der 840 ihrem Sohn Robert dem Tapferen nach dessen Wechsel aus dem Herrschaftsbereich Ludwigs des Deutschen in den von Karl dem Kahlen als Basis seines Aufstiegs im Westfränkischen Reich diente.

Ihr Mann Rutpert (* um 781) starb spätestens 834; in diesem Jahr ist eine zu seinem Seelenheil gemachte gemeinsame Schenkung seiner Witwe und seines Sohnes Guntram an die Abtei Lorsch beurkundet.
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Rutpert und Wiltrud hatten folgende Kinder, die das Erwachsenenalter erreichten:

    Oda heiratete Walaho IV., der nach 840 Graf im Wormsgau wurde; die beiden wurde vermutlich die Stammeltern der Salier.
    Guntram (815– 837) war 834– 837 Graf im Wormsgau.
    Eine Tochter unbekannten Namens heiratete Megingoz I., der 876 als Graf im Wormsgau bezeugt ist.
    Robert der Tapfere († 866), dessen Söhne Odo und Robert Könige des Westfrankenreichs wurden.

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Sources

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  3. Bienvenue sur les pages persos des Freenautes, AUREJAC.GED, http://arnaud.aurejac.free.fr / n/a
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