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Personal data Berta of FRANCE (Carolingian) daughter of Charlemagne & Hildegard
- She was born about 779 in Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany.
- She died on March 11, 826 in Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany.
- She is buried in Somme, Picardie, France.
- A child of Charlemagne Carolus 'Magnus' France and Hildegard of Vinzgouw
- This information was last updated on May 7, 2022.
Household of Berta of FRANCE (Carolingian) daughter of Charlemagne & Hildegard
She is married to Angilbert "the Saint" de Ponthieu.
They got married.
Child(ren):
Notes about Berta of FRANCE (Carolingian) daughter of Charlemagne & Hildegard
Berta is your 35th great grandmother.
You
‰ ᆒ Henry Marvin Welborn
your father ·Üí Emma Corine Welborn (Bombard)
his mother ·Üí Emma Elizabeth Free / Bombard (Davis)
her mother ·Üí Nancy Isabelle Davis (Bynum)
her mother ·Üí Robert W Bynum
her father ·Üí Mark Bynum
his father ·Üí William Bynum, III
his father ·Üí William Bynum, II
his father ·Üí Mary Bynum (Fort)
his mother ·Üí John Fort
her father ·Üí Phyllis Fort (Champion)
his mother ·Üí Elizabeth Champion (Atkins)
her mother ·Üí John Atkins
her father ·Üí Frances Atkins (Blennerhassett)
his mother ·Üí Mary Blennerhasset (Echingham)
her mother ·Üí Sir Edward Echingham
her father ·Üí John Echingham
his father ·Üí Sir Richard Echingham
his father ·Üí Margaret Knyvett
his mother ·Üí Sir John Knyvet, II, MP
her father ·Üí Sir John Knyvet (Knevitt), Lord Chancellor of England
his father ·Üí Richard Knyvett, of Northamptonshire
his father ·Üí Sir John Knyvett, Lord of Southwick
his father ·Üí John Knyvett
his father ·Üí Thomas Knevet (Knyvett)
his father ·Üí John Knevet
his father ·Üí Mansucrus Knevet
his father ·Üí Manfred Knyvett
his father ·Üí Drugo Knevet (Knyvett)
his father ·Üí Edmund Knevet
his father ·Üí Alfred Knevet
his father ·Üí Emma Dammartin
his mother ·Üí Nicholas Dammartin
her father ·Üí Hildouin de Montdidier, Comte de Roucy
his father ·Üí Hilddouin de Ponthieu, I, Count of Ponthieu
his father ·Üí Berthe De Ponthieu de Boulogne (de Ponthieu)
his mother ·Üí Berta
her mother
Berta is your 36th great grandmother.
You‰
‰ ‰ ᆒ‰ Henry Marvin Welborn‰
your father‰ ᆒ‰ Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Calhoun H Welborn‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Younger Welborn‰
his father‰ ᆒWilliam "Billy" Welborn‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Aaron Welborne‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ James Welborn‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Ann B. Wellborn‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ William H. Crabtree‰
her father‰ ᆒJames Thomas Crabtree‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Samuel Crabtree‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ William Thomas Crabtree‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Grace Crabtree‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ George Courtenay‰
her father‰ ᆒJohn Courtney, MP, of Lanivet‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Richard Courtney‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Edmund Courtney‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Philip Courtenay, of Powderham and Molland‰
his father‰ ᆒSir John Courtenay, of Powderham‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Philip Courtenay, KG, MP‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Margaret de Courtenay, Countess of Devon‰
his mother‰ ᆒHumphrey VIII de Bohun, 4th Earl of Herford‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Maude de Fiennes‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Enguerrand Ingelram II de Fiennes, Baron De Tingry‰
her father‰ ᆒQueen Agnes DeFiennes‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Aubry II, count of Dammartin‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Aubri de Mello, chambrier de France, sieur de Dammartin‰
his father‰ ᆒAelis de Dammartin‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Hugues I de Dammartin, comte de Montdidier‰
her father¬â ·Üí¬â Manassâ®s, comte de Dammartin¬â
his father‰ ᆒHildouin II de Ramerupt, I. comte de Montdidier‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Unknown, of Hersinde de Ramerupt‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Herluin II, count of Ponthieu‰
his father‰ ᆒHelgaud de Ponthieu, comte de Montreuil‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Herbouin I, count of Ponthieu‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Helgaud de Montreuil, I‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Nithard "the Chronicler"‰
his fatherᆒ‰ Berta‰
his mother
https://www.geni.com/people/Berta/6000000002134778785
Berta
Dutch: Berthe, Prinses der Franken
Gender:
Female
Birth:
circa 779‰
Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany‰
Death:
March 11, 826‰ (43-51)‰
Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany‰
Place of Burial:
Somme, Picardie, France
Immediate Family:
Daughter of‰ Charlemagne‰ and‰ Hildegard of Vinzgouw‰
Wife of‰ Angilbert "the Saint" de Ponthieu, abbot of Saint-Riquier‰
Mother of‰ Nithard "the Chronicler";‰ Hardouin de Ponthieu;‰ Berthe de Ponthieu;‰ Hartnid ...‰ and‰ Armid‰
Sister of¬â Charles 'the Younger', King of the Franks;¬â Adalhaid;¬â Rotrude;¬â "Pâ©pin" Carloman, King of Italy;¬â Louis I, The Pious;¬â Lothair;¬â Giselaand¬â Hildegarde¬â ¬´ less¬â
Half sister of‰ Amaudra;‰ Pippin the Hunchback;‰ Adeltrude;‰ Ruodhaid, Abbess of Faremoutiers;‰ Theodrada, Abbess of Argenteuil;‰ Hiltrude;‰ Alpaida;‰ Drogo, Bishop of Metz;‰ Hugo, Archchancellor of the Empire;‰ Richbod‰ and‰ Theodoric‰ « less‰
Bertha (779-826), daughter of Charlemagne & Hildegard
Please see‰ Charlemagne Project‰ for Source Details
[Berta¬â ([779/80]-11 Mar, 824 or after). "Hruodrudem et Bertham et Gislam" are named daughters of King Charles & Hildegard by Einhard[126]. Angilbert's poem Ad Pippinum Italiⶠregum names (in order) "Chrodthrudis·Ä¶Berta·Ä¶Gisla et Theodrada" as daughters of King Charles[127]. Theodulf's poem Ad Carolum Rege changes the order slightly when he names "Berta·Ä¶Chrodtrudh ·Ä¶Gisla·Ä¶Rothaidh·Ä¶Hiltrudh, Tetdrada" as daughters of the king[128]. The Chronicon Fontanellense records that Charles I King of the Franks proposed a marriage between ·ÄúOffⶠRege Anglorum sive Merciorum·Ä¶filiam·Äù and ·ÄúCarolus iunior·Äù, but that King Offa refused unless ·ÄúBerta filia Caroli Magni·Äù was also married to his son which was unacceptable to the Frankish king[129]. Her father kept her and her sisters at the court of Aix-la-Chapelle refusing them permission to marry, but she was banished from court by her brother Emperor Louis I on his accession[130]. The Vita Angilberti records the relationship between "Berta filia [rex de regina Hildigarda]" and "domnus Angilbertus"[131]. The Chronicon Centulensis records that ·ÄúAngilbertus·Äù married ·Äúregis filiam Bertam·Äù and that they had ·Äúduos filios Harnidum et Nithardum·Äù[132]. Nithard names Bertha, daughter of King Charles, as his mother[133]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "V Id Mar" of "Berta filia Karoli imperatoris qui dedit superiorem Curtem"[134]. Mistress: (from [795]) of ANGILBERT "the Saint", son of [NITHARD & his wife Richarda] ([750]-18 Feb 814, bur Saint-Riquier, â©glise du Saint-Sauveur et de Saint-Richard). :[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192
Nome: ou Bertrada. Nascimento: ou 780, ou 775, ou em Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Alemanha. Morte: ou 22 de janeiro de 822/823, ou 23 de marâßo de 822/823, ou 14 de janeiro de 828, ou 11 de marâßo de 826, ou 14 de janeiro de 823, ou depois de 14 de janeiro de 823.
From the Find-a-Grave page on Bertha Carolingian:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=52843950
Birth: unknown, Aachen, Germany
Death: unknown, France
Bertha Carolingian was born 779 to Charlemagne (747-814) and Hildegard (758-783) and died March 11, 825 of unspecified causes.
She was married ( or common law) to Saint Angilbert of Centula. Bertha and Angilbert both entered religious life when prayers for a successful resistance to a Danish invasion were answered when a storm scattered the Danish fleet.
She entered a convent and he became a nun.
From the Find-a-Grave page on her common-law husband, St. Angilbert of Centula:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=52842750
Saint Angilbert "Homer" Of Centula
Birth: unknown, Normandy, France
Death: unknown, Somme, France
Born 777
Died February 18, 814
Saint Angilbert (died 18 February 814) was a Frank who served Charlemagne as a diplomat, abbot, poet and semi-son-in-law. He was of noble Frankish parentage, and educated at the palace school in Aquae Grani (Aachen) under Alcuin. He is venerated as a saint, on the day of his death·Äî18 February.
When Charlemagne sent his young son Pepin (OUR ANCESTOR) to Italy as King of the Lombards Angilbert went along as primicerius palatii, a high administrator of the satellite court. As the friend and adviser of Pepin, he assisted for a while in the government of Italy.
Angilbert delivered the document on Iconoclasm from the Frankish Synod of Frankfurt to Pope Adrian I, and was later sent on three important embassies to the pope, in 792, 794 and 796.
In 790 he was named abbot of Centulum, also called Sancti Richarii monasterium (Saint-Riquier) in northern France, where his brilliant rule gained for him later the renown of a saint. It was not uncommon for the Merovingian, Carolingian, or later kings to make laymen abbots of monasteries; the layman would often use the income of the monastery as his own and leave the monks a bare minimum for the necessary expenses of the foundation.
Angilbert, in contrast, spent a great deal rebuilding Saint-Riquier, and when he completed it Charlemagne spent Easter of the year 800 there.
Angilbert's non-sacramental relationship with Bertha was evidently recognized by the court - if she had not been the daughter of the King historians might refer to her as his concubine. They had at least two sons, one of whom, Nithard, became a notable figure in the mid-9th century.
Control of marriage and the meanings of legitimacy were hotly contested in the Middle Ages. Bertha and Angilbert are an example of how resistance to the idea of a sacramental marriage could coincide with holding church offices.
His poems reveal the culture and tastes of a man of the world, enjoying the closest intimacy with the imperial family. He accompanied Charlemagne to Rome in 800 and was one of the witnesses to his will in 814.
Angilbert was the Homer of the emperor's literary circle, and was the probable author of an epic, of which the fragment which has been preserved describes the life at the palace and the meeting between Charlemagne and Leo III. It is a mosaic from Virgil, Ovid, Lucan and Venantius Fortunatus, composed in the manner of Einhard's use of Suetonius, and exhibits a true poetic gift.
Of the shorter poems, besides the greeting to Pippin on his return from the campaign against the Avars (796), an epistle to David (Charlemagne) incidentally reveals a delightful picture of the poet living with his children in a house surrounded by pleasant gardens near the emperor's palace.
The reference to Bertha, however, is distant and respectful, her name occurring merely on the list of princesses to whom he sends his salutation.
Angilbert's poems have been published by E. Dummler in the Monumenta Germaniae Historica. For criticisms of this edition see Traube in Roederer's Schriften fâºr germanische Philologie (1888). See also A. Molinier, Les Sources de l'histoire de France.
From Wikipedia
Family:
Children: Nithard de Ponthieu*
Spouse: Bertha Carolingian
Burial: Abbey church of Saint-Riquier
Somme, France
Created by: genealogybuff
Record added: May 25, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 52842750
It is difficult to understand Charlemagne's attitude toward his daughters. None of them contracted a sacramental marriage. This may have been an attempt to control the number of potential alliances. Charlemagne certainly refused to believe the stories (mostly true) of their wild behaviour. After his death the surviving daughters entered or were forced to enter nunneries by their own brother, the pious Louis. Only one of them, Bertha, had a recognised relationship, if not a marriage, with Angilbert, a member of Charlemagne's court circle.
http://www.our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p332.htm#i9959
http://www.our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/ui05.htm#a4538
Bertha (779-826), daughter of Charlemagne & Hildegard
Please see Charlemagne Project for Source Details
[Berta ([779/80]-11 Mar, 824 or after). "Hruodrudem et Bertham et Gislam" are named daughters of King Charles & Hildegard by Einhard[126]. Angilbert's poem Ad Pippinum Italiⶠregum names (in order) "Chrodthrudis·Ä¶Berta·Ä¶Gisla et Theodrada" as daughters of King Charles[127]. Theodulf's poem Ad Carolum Rege changes the order slightly when he names "Berta·Ä¶Chrodtrudh ·Ä¶Gisla·Ä¶Rothaidh·Ä¶Hiltrudh, Tetdrada" as daughters of the king[128]. The Chronicon Fontanellense records that Charles I King of the Franks proposed a marriage between ·ÄúOffⶠRege Anglorum sive Merciorum·Ä¶filiam·Äù and ·ÄúCarolus iunior·Äù, but that King Offa refused unless ·ÄúBerta filia Caroli Magni·Äù was also married to his son which was unacceptable to the Frankish king[129]. Her father kept her and her sisters at the court of Aix-la-Chapelle refusing them permission to marry, but she was banished from court by her brother Emperor Louis I on his accession[130]. The Vita Angilberti records the relationship between "Berta filia [rex de regina Hildigarda]" and "domnus Angilbertus"[131]. The Chronicon Centulensis records that ·ÄúAngilbertus·Äù married ·Äúregis filiam Bertam·Äù and that they had ·Äúduos filios Harnidum et Nithardum·Äù[132]. Nithard names Bertha, daughter of King Charles, as his mother[133]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "V Id Mar" of "Berta filia Karoli imperatoris qui dedit superiorem Curtem"[134]. Mistress: (from [795]) of ANGILBERT "the Saint", son of [NITHARD & his wife Richarda] ([750]-18 Feb 814, bur Saint-Riquier, â©glise du Saint-Sauveur et de Saint-Richard). :[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192
Nome: ou Bertrada. Nascimento: ou 780, ou 775, ou em Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Alemanha. Morte: ou 22 de janeiro de 822/823, ou 23 de marâßo de 822/823, ou 14 de janeiro de 828, ou 11 de marâßo de 826, ou 14 de janeiro de 823, ou depois de 14 de janeiro de 823.
From the Find-a-Grave page on Bertha Carolingian:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=52843950
Birth: unknown, Aachen, Germany
Death: unknown, France
Bertha Carolingian was born 779 to Charlemagne (747-814) and Hildegard (758-783) and died March 11, 825 of unspecified causes.
She was married ( or common law) to Saint Angilbert of Centula. Bertha and Angilbert both entered religious life when prayers for a successful resistance to a Danish invasion were answered when a storm scattered the Danish fleet.
She entered a convent and he became a nun.
From the Find-a-Grave page on her common-law husband, St. Angilbert of Centula:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=52842750
Saint Angilbert "Homer" Of Centula
Birth: unknown, Normandy, France
Death: unknown, Somme, France
Born 777
Died February 18, 814
Saint Angilbert (died 18 February 814) was a Frank who served Charlemagne as a diplomat, abbot, poet and semi-son-in-law. He was of noble Frankish parentage, and educated at the palace school in Aquae Grani (Aachen) under Alcuin. He is venerated as a saint, on the day of his death·Äî18 February.
When Charlemagne sent his young son Pepin (OUR ANCESTOR) to Italy as King of the Lombards Angilbert went along as primicerius palatii, a high administrator of the satellite court. As the friend and adviser of Pepin, he assisted for a while in the government of Italy.
Angilbert delivered the document on Iconoclasm from the Frankish Synod of Frankfurt to Pope Adrian I, and was later sent on three important embassies to the pope, in 792, 794 and 796.
In 790 he was named abbot of Centulum, also called Sancti Richarii monasterium (Saint-Riquier) in northern France, where his brilliant rule gained for him later the renown of a saint. It was not uncommon for the Merovingian, Carolingian, or later kings to make laymen abbots of monasteries; the layman would often use the income of the monastery as his own and leave the monks a bare minimum for the necessary expenses of the foundation.
Angilbert, in contrast, spent a great deal rebuilding Saint-Riquier, and when he completed it Charlemagne spent Easter of the year 800 there.
Angilbert's non-sacramental relationship with Bertha was evidently recognized by the court - if she had not been the daughter of the King historians might refer to her as his concubine. They had at least two sons, one of whom, Nithard, became a notable figure in the mid-9th century.
Control of marriage and the meanings of legitimacy were hotly contested in the Middle Ages. Bertha and Angilbert are an example of how resistance to the idea of a sacramental marriage could coincide with holding church offices.
His poems reveal the culture and tastes of a man of the world, enjoying the closest intimacy with the imperial family. He accompanied Charlemagne to Rome in 800 and was one of the witnesses to his will in 814.
Angilbert was the Homer of the emperor's literary circle, and was the probable author of an epic, of which the fragment which has been preserved describes the life at the palace and the meeting between Charlemagne and Leo III. It is a mosaic from Virgil, Ovid, Lucan and Venantius Fortunatus, composed in the manner of Einhard's use of Suetonius, and exhibits a true poetic gift.
Of the shorter poems, besides the greeting to Pippin on his return from the campaign against the Avars (796), an epistle to David (Charlemagne) incidentally reveals a delightful picture of the poet living with his children in a house surrounded by pleasant gardens near the emperor's palace.
The reference to Bertha, however, is distant and respectful, her name occurring merely on the list of princesses to whom he sends his salutation.
Angilbert's poems have been published by E. Dummler in the Monumenta Germaniae Historica. For criticisms of this edition see Traube in Roederer's Schriften fâºr germanische Philologie (1888). See also A. Molinier, Les Sources de l'histoire de France.
From Wikipedia
Family:
Children: Nithard de Ponthieu*
Spouse: Bertha Carolingian
Burial: Abbey church of Saint-Riquier
Somme, France
Created by: genealogybuff
Record added: May 25, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 52842750 -------------------- It is difficult to understand Charlemagne's attitude toward his daughters. None of them contracted a sacramental marriage. This may have been an attempt to control the number of potential alliances. Charlemagne certainly refused to believe the stories (mostly true) of their wild behaviour. After his death the surviving daughters entered or were forced to enter nunneries by their own brother, the pious Louis. Only one of them, Bertha, had a recognised relationship, if not a marriage, with Angilbert, a member of Charlemagne's court circle.
http://www.our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p332.htm#i9959
http://www.our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/ui05.htm#a4538
read more
Bertha (779-826), daughter of Charlemagne & Hildegard
Please see Charlemagne Project for Source Details
[Berta ([779/80]-11 Mar, 824 or after). "Hruodrudem et Bertham et Gislam" are named daughters of King Charles & Hildegard by Einhard[126]. Angilbert's poem Ad Pippinum Italiⶠregum names (in order) "Chrodthrudis·Ä¶Berta·Ä¶Gisla et Theodrada" as daughters of King Charles[127]. Theodulf's poem Ad Carolum Rege changes the order slightly when he names "Berta·Ä¶Chrodtrudh ·Ä¶Gisla·Ä¶Rothaidh·Ä¶Hiltrudh, Tetdrada" as daughters of the king[128]. The Chronicon Fontanellense records that Charles I King of the Franks proposed a marriage between ·ÄúOffⶠRege Anglorum sive Merciorum·Ä¶filiam·Äù and ·ÄúCarolus iunior·Äù, but that King Offa refused unless ·ÄúBerta filia Caroli Magni·Äù was also married to his son which was unacceptable to the Frankish king[129]. Her father kept her and her sisters at the court of Aix-la-Chapelle refusing them permission to marry, but she was banished from court by her brother Emperor Louis I on his accession[130]. The Vita Angilberti records the relationship between "Berta filia [rex de regina Hildigarda]" and "domnus Angilbertus"[131]. The Chronicon Centulensis records that ·ÄúAngilbertus·Äù married ·Äúregis filiam Bertam·Äù and that they had ·Äúduos filios Harnidum et Nithardum·Äù[132]. Nithard names Bertha, daughter of King Charles, as his mother[133]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "V Id Mar" of "Berta filia Karoli imperatoris qui dedit superiorem Curtem"[134]. Mistress: (from [795]) of ANGILBERT "the Saint", son of [NITHARD & his wife Richarda] ([750]-18 Feb 814, bur Saint-Riquier, â©glise du Saint-Sauveur et de Saint-Richard). :[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192
Nome: ou Bertrada. Nascimento: ou 780, ou 775, ou em Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Alemanha. Morte: ou 22 de janeiro de 822/823, ou 23 de marâßo de 822/823, ou 14 de janeiro de 828, ou 11 de marâßo de 826, ou 14 de janeiro de 823, ou depois de 14 de janeiro de 823.
From the Find-a-Grave page on Bertha Carolingian:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=52843950
Birth: unknown, Aachen, Germany
Death: unknown, France
Bertha Carolingian was born 779 to Charlemagne (747-814) and Hildegard (758-783) and died March 11, 825 of unspecified causes.
She was married ( or common law) to Saint Angilbert of Centula. Bertha and Angilbert both entered religious life when prayers for a successful resistance to a Danish invasion were answered when a storm scattered the Danish fleet.
She entered a convent and he became a nun.
From the Find-a-Grave page on her common-law husband, St. Angilbert of Centula:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=52842750
Saint Angilbert "Homer" Of Centula
Birth: unknown, Normandy, France
Death: unknown, Somme, France
Born 777
Died February 18, 814
Saint Angilbert (died 18 February 814) was a Frank who served Charlemagne as a diplomat, abbot, poet and semi-son-in-law. He was of noble Frankish parentage, and educated at the palace school in Aquae Grani (Aachen) under Alcuin. He is venerated as a saint, on the day of his death·Äî18 February.
When Charlemagne sent his young son Pepin (OUR ANCESTOR) to Italy as King of the Lombards Angilbert went along as primicerius palatii, a high administrator of the satellite court. As the friend and adviser of Pepin, he assisted for a while in the government of Italy.
Angilbert delivered the document on Iconoclasm from the Frankish Synod of Frankfurt to Pope Adrian I, and was later sent on three important embassies to the pope, in 792, 794 and 796.
In 790 he was named abbot of Centulum, also called Sancti Richarii monasterium (Saint-Riquier) in northern France, where his brilliant rule gained for him later the renown of a saint. It was not uncommon for the Merovingian, Carolingian, or later kings to make laymen abbots of monasteries; the layman would often use the income of the monastery as his own and leave the monks a bare minimum for the necessary expenses of the foundation.
Angilbert, in contrast, spent a great deal rebuilding Saint-Riquier, and when he completed it Charlemagne spent Easter of the year 800 there.
Angilbert's non-sacramental relationship with Bertha was evidently recognized by the court - if she had not been the daughter of the King historians might refer to her as his concubine. They had at least two sons, one of whom, Nithard, became a notable figure in the mid-9th century.
Control of marriage and the meanings of legitimacy were hotly contested in the Middle Ages. Bertha and Angilbert are an example of how resistance to the idea of a sacramental marriage could coincide with holding church offices.
His poems reveal the culture and tastes of a man of the world, enjoying the closest intimacy with the imperial family. He accompanied Charlemagne to Rome in 800 and was one of the witnesses to his will in 814.
Angilbert was the Homer of the emperor's literary circle, and was the probable author of an epic, of which the fragment which has been preserved describes the life at the palace and the meeting between Charlemagne and Leo III. It is a mosaic from Virgil, Ovid, Lucan and Venantius Fortunatus, composed in the manner of Einhard's use of Suetonius, and exhibits a true poetic gift.
Of the shorter poems, besides the greeting to Pippin on his return from the campaign against the Avars (796), an epistle to David (Charlemagne) incidentally reveals a delightful picture of the poet living with his children in a house surrounded by pleasant gardens near the emperor's palace.
The reference to Bertha, however, is distant and respectful, her name occurring merely on the list of princesses to whom he sends his salutation.
Angilbert's poems have been published by E. Dummler in the Monumenta Germaniae Historica. For criticisms of this edition see Traube in Roederer's Schriften fâºr germanische Philologie (1888). See also A. Molinier, Les Sources de l'histoire de France.
From Wikipedia
Family:
Children: Nithard de Ponthieu*
Spouse: Bertha Carolingian
Burial: Abbey church of Saint-Riquier
Somme, France
Created by: genealogybuff
Record added: May 25, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 52842750 -------------------- It is difficult to understand Charlemagne's attitude toward his daughters. None of them contracted a sacramental marriage. This may have been an attempt to control the number of potential alliances. Charlemagne certainly refused to believe the stories (mostly true) of their wild behaviour. After his death the surviving daughters entered or were forced to enter nunneries by their own brother, the pious Louis. Only one of them, Bertha, had a recognised relationship, if not a marriage, with Angilbert, a member of Charlemagne's court circle.
http://www.our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p332.htm#i9959
http://www.our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/ui05.htm#a4538
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Ancestors (and descendant) of Berta of FRANCE (Carolingian)
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Angilbert "the Saint" de Ponthieu | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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The Family Tree Welborn publication was prepared by Marvin Loyd Welborn.
When copying data from this family tree, please include a reference to the origin:
Marvin Loyd Welborn, "Family Tree Welborn", database, Genealogy Online (https://www.genealogieonline.nl/family-tree-welborn/I41974.php : accessed April 20, 2024), "Berta of FRANCE (Carolingian) daughter of Charlemagne & Hildegard (± 779-826)".
Marvin Loyd Welborn, "Family Tree Welborn", database, Genealogy Online (https://www.genealogieonline.nl/family-tree-welborn/I41974.php : accessed April 20, 2024), "Berta of FRANCE (Carolingian) daughter of Charlemagne & Hildegard (± 779-826)".