Familienstammbaum Willemse » David de Lindsay (1203-> 1246)

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   Lord David de Lindsay of Breneville and Byres<br>Geslacht: Man<br>Geboorte: 1203 - Luffness, Aberlady, East Lothian, Scotland<br>Echtgenote: Margaret de Crawford<br>Kinderen: John de Lindsay, Sir David de Lindsay of Breneville<br>  Aanvullende informatie: LifeSketch:Lord David's wife is not known in record, and he had two children with her, hence why he is married to a Mrs David Lindsay: 1241 under which Alexander II King of Scotland confirmed a donation of "duas acras terre in territorio de Scona" to Scone abbey[953]. m ---. The name of David’s wife is not known. David & his wife had two children: ed charter under which "Alexander senescallus Scocie" confirmed the donation to Balmerino abbey of "una terra in burgo de Perth" made by "Walterus pater meus"[954]. m MARGARET Lindsay, daughter of [WALTER de Lindsay & his wife Christiana ---]. Balfour Paul shows her parentage and marriage[955]. "Willelmus de Lyndesay miles filius quondam dni David de Lyndeshay" donated revenue to Newbattle priory, for the souls of "dni David de Lydesay patris mei et Margarete de Lyndesay matris mee", by charter dated 1293[956]. David & his wife had three children: I King of England at Berwick-upon-Tweed 28 Aug 1296[957]. m ---. The name of Alexander’s wife is not known. Alexander & his wife had one child: ;David de Lyndd dñs de Crauford filius et heres quondam dñi Alex de Lyndd" confirmed the donation "in territorio de Crauford" to Newbattle priory made by "Gerardi de Lyndd", to Newbattle priory by charter dated 1327[958]. ponse quondam domini Archibaldi” for her lifetime and after her death to “Johannis de Douglas filio suo et heredi ac heredibus suis” by undated charter[959]. m firstly ARCHIBALD Douglas, son of WILLIAM Douglas of Douglas & his first wife Elizabeth Stewart (-killed in battle Halidon Hill 19 Jul 1333). m secondly ROBERT Erskine of Erskine, son of ---. [1310]). Lord of Symington, Ayrshire. "Willelmus de Lyndesay miles filius quondam dni David de Lyndeshay" donated revenue to Newbattle priory, for the souls of "dni David de Lydesay patris mei et Margarete de Lyndesay matris mee", by charter dated 1293[960]. "Willelmus de Lindesay" donated property to Deer, for the souls and anniversaries of "Margarete comitisse de Bucquhan quondam sponse mee et Alisie de Lyndesay prioris sponse mee", by charter dated to [1310], witnessed by “domino Duncano Lindsay fratre meo...”[961]. m firstly ALICE, daughter of ---. A charter dated 3 Sep 1296 records petitions to King Edward I by women whose estates had been seized in Scotland, including by "Alicia uxor Willelmi de Lindesay, qui est in curia Romana…per tres annos" who requested restoration of "terras dicti viri sui quæ sunt de hereditate ipsius Aliciæ"[962]. "Willelmus de Lindesay" donated property to Deer, for the souls and anniversaries of "Margarete comitisse de Bucquhan quondam sponse mee et Alisie de Lyndesay prioris sponse mee", by charter dated to [1310], witnessed by “domino Duncano Lindsay fratre meo...”[963]. m secondly [as her second husband,] MARGARET [Comyn, widow of JOHN Ross, daughter of ALEXANDER Comyn & his wife Joanna] (-before [1310]). "Willelmus de Lindesay" donated property to Deer, for the souls and anniversaries of "Margarete comitisse de Bucquhan quondam sponse mee et Alisie de Lyndesay prioris sponse mee", by charter dated to [1310], witnessed by “domino Duncano Lindsay fratre meo...”[964]. The Complete Peerage suggests this identity of William’s second wife[965]. It is not an ideal fit. John Comyn Earl of Buchan, uncle of Margaret daughter of Alexander Comyn, died in 1308. His heir appears to have been Alice, older sister of Margaret. It is therefore unclear how Margaret could legitimately have claimed to be countess of Buchan after he died. In any case, the date of death of William Lindsay’s second wife is not known, so it cannot be stated definitely that she survived Earl John. In addition, no indication has been found of the date of death of Margaret’s first husband which could show whether the suggestion is possible. Two other possibilities present themselves. Firstly, Margaret, wife of William Lindsay, could have been an otherwise unrecorded second wife of Alexander Comyn Earl of Buchan, the father of Earl John, who died in 1290. In that case, there would have been no doubt about her right to bear the title “countess of Buchan”. Secondly, she could have been Marjory, oldest sister of Earl John, who may have asserted a claim to the earldom of Buchan after the death of her brother as the oldest surviving heir of his generation. Marjory’s known husband, Patrick Earl of Dunbar, died in 1308 so a second marriage before the [1310] charter is possible, although no indication has been found of her own date of death so it is not known whether she survived Earl Patrick. ls and anniversaries of "Margarete comitisse de Bucquhan quondam sponse mee et Alisie de Lyndesay prioris sponse mee", by charter dated to [1310], witnessed by “domino Duncano Lindsay fratre meo...”[966]. upon-Tweed 28 Aug 1296[967].

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