(1) Sie ist verheiratet mit John VI de Sutton.
Sie haben geheiratet rund 1422 in Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, England.Quellen 1, 2, 7
Kind(er):
(2) Sie ist verheiratet mit Edward de Cherleton.
Sie haben geheiratet vor 1408.
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Subject: Elizabeth Berkeley, wife of Edward Cherleton and John Sutton
From: Douglas Richardson ((XXXXX@XXXX.XXX))
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval, soc.history.medieval, alt.talk.royalty
Dear Newsgroup ~
Sometime ago, someone on the newsgroup questioned the parentage of
Elizabeth Berkeley (died 1478), wife successively of Edward Cherleton,
K.G., 5th Lord Cherleton, and John Sutton, K.G., 1st Lord Dudley. I
was rather surprised that Elizabeth's parentage would come under
question, as standard sources all concur that Elizabeth was a daughter
of John Berkeley, Knt., of Beverstone, Gloucestershire, by Elizabeth,
daughter and heiress of John de Betteshorne.
My own research indicates that Elizabeth Berkeley is fully identified
as the daughter of Sir John Berkeley in no less than three visitations,
one for the Berkeley family, one for the Cherleton family, and one for
the Sutton-Dudley family (see transcripts below). I likewise find that
Elizabeth was a legatee in the 1459 will of her sister, Eleanor
Hungerford, Countess of Arundel, who bequeathed her a row of pearls.
Conclusive evidence that Elizabeth, Lady Cherleton, was a Berkeley can
be found on her personal seal attached to a document dated 1421, which
artifact is described in the book, Catalogue of Seals in the Public
Record, Personal Seals, by Roger H. Ellis, vol. 1 (1978): 16. The seal
bears a traceried circle, with a shield of arms: a lion rampant
[CHERLETON], impaling a chevron between ten crosses paty [BERKELEY].
Interested parties can find further details of Elizabeth (Berkeley)
(Cherleton) Sutton's life, ancestry, and descendants in my book,
Plantagenet Ancestry (2004). Contact me privately at my e-mail address
for particulars regarding ordering the book.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: (XXXXX@XXXX.XXX)
Website: www.royalancestry.net
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VISITATION EVIDENCE:
l. Tresswell & Vincent, Vis. of Shropshire 1623, 1569 & 1584 1 (H.S.P.
28) (1889): 105 (1623 Vis.) (Charleton pedigree: "Edward Charleton
Do. Powisiæ frater & heres Joh'is Dom. Powisiæ ob. a[nn]o 1420, 7
H. 5. [1] = Elianora soror et una heredum Edmundi Holland Comitis
Kancij, [2] = Elizab. filia Joh'is Berckley militis renupta Baroni
Dudley").
2. Benolte et al., Peds. from the Vis. of Hampshire 1530, 1575, 1622 &
1634 (H.S.P. 64) (1913): 56-57 (Berkley pedigree: "Elizebeth
[Berkeley] lady Dudley").
3. Mundy, Middlesex Peds. (H.S.P. 65) (1914): 146-147 (Dudley
pedigree: "Sr John Sutton lord Dudley Knt. of the Garter. = Elizebeth
d. of Sr John Barkley of Beverston knt.").
Brad Verity wrote:
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>
> (p. 239): "Finally, I took my chance and landed at the port of
> Barmouth in Wales, where--since I could not for the moment go to see
> my lord of Powis [Edward de Cherleton], because he was at that time
in
> [quoted text muted]
> betrayed, and passing many sleepless nights in fear of attack from my
> enemies."
>
> Given-Wilson, in a footnote, has this to add about the Lord of
Powis's
> [quoted text muted]
> His second marriage, c.1408, is usually thought to have been to
> Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John Berkeley of Beverstone ('GEC' iii.
> 161-2). Her name certainly was Elizabeth ('CFR 1413-22', pp. 399,
> 442), and I can find no evidence to support Usk's statement, but it
is
> [quoted text muted]
> curious that he should be wrong on such a point. Moreover, John
> Berkeley is said only to have had two daughters (John Smyth of
Nibley,
> [quoted text muted]
> Berkeley of Beverstone? CP cites no source for this.
>
> One possible solution as to Adam of Usk's confusion as to her
> parentage could be this: Eleanor de Mortimer, the younger
stepdaughter
> [quoted text muted]
> the manor of Breamore, annual value f10, and the advowson of Breamore
> priory, belonging to the manor and worth nothing, all held in chief."
>
> Cheers, -----Brad
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